QUOTE ((~Ambrose~ @ Feb 27 2011, 04:23 AM))
I saw this and I had to throw in my two cents....
I have to respectfully disagree...Gun laws are pretty pointless... Take for example the kids that did Columbine, they broke over 20 gun laws in order to go into that school and kill those kids. Do you really think 20 more would have stopped them? So basically we're stripping the public of the ability to defend themselves, and making it easier for criminals to harm us.
I have to respectfully disagree...Gun laws are pretty pointless... Take for example the kids that did Columbine, they broke over 20 gun laws in order to go into that school and kill those kids. Do you really think 20 more would have stopped them? So basically we're stripping the public of the ability to defend themselves, and making it easier for criminals to harm us.
Let me put it this way, when was the last time you heard of something like Columbine or V-Tech happen in Britain, France, Italy, Spain, Russia, Australia, Japan too name just a few? Countries with gun control laws. I'm not too sure and I'd be interested to see figures, but I'm also sure these countries have a much lower over all rate of violent crime. Thus disproving your point in its entirety.
QUOTE ((~Ambrose~ @ Feb 27 2011, 04:23 AM))
The other reason why gun laws are detrimental to public safety is the possibility of a government gone bad. That was the whole purpose of the 2nd Amendment to the American Constitution, was to protect us as the people from that possibility. If you look at history, you'll see that one of the first things dictators like Stalin and Hitler did in order to obtain complete power over the people was to implement gun control.
Ah but you're cherry picking history. The UK is about ready to overthrow our government, does that mean we'll be storming parliament with rifles bared? No, it means we will have made our point with protests and votes, you know, like a democracy... and we aren't even a democracy. Also before you mention Hitler, bare in mind he was democratically elected and though he may have been a ruthless warlord, he was not a despotic leader. He was what the German populace wanted at the time... because he gave them a scapegoat for their countries failing economy. Am I justifying what he did? No I am not, what I am saying is comparing him to someone like Stalin is inappropriate.
Speaking of WWII, for all the war atrocities others have committed, at least they never dropped nuclear armaments on civilian targets... but that's a debate for another time.
There you go, talking point for your next history class.
QUOTE ((~Ambrose~ @ Feb 27 2011, 04:23 AM))
That's not to say there shouldn't be background checks and whatnot... handing a gun to anybody that walked in would simply be unintelligent. But restricting the ownership of weapons as much as they do is achieving exactly the opposite of what the original intent was.
And tell me, do you know what their exact original intent was? Have you travelled back in time and asked them what they really meant when they made this, because I guarantee their response would be something akin too;
"Whatchu talkin' 'bout crazy foo'? This shizzle just so no red coat can get all up in yo' hizzy and give yo shiz fo' bein' colonial an' shit... man homies best drop that shiz when tha batty brit boyeez head all on up to their own hizzy. Shit jus' got real."
Or however they spoke back then, but essentially I am pretty damn sure, of course this is my theory, that their main intent was to keep the law modular, so they may keep it all relevant.
QUOTE ((~Ambrose~ @ Feb 27 2011, 04:23 AM))
I am patriotic to what America stood for when it began, a free country with government "Of the People, For the People, and By the People" and for the original American dream that if you were willing to work hard enough, you could achieve anything regardless of your background. I don't like the way our government is headed, I will admit, but I love my America.
Anywho... that's all I wanted to say lol......
Anywho... that's all I wanted to say lol......
And yet you aren't free, you are tethered too an increasingly irrelevant piece of parchment, your entire social structure is ageing and creaking under the pressures of modern life, as your government exerts more control over you then ever before... thats before the Obama administration even, hell even Clinton was known for it, your country, where in a religious organisation wasn't allowed to live as free as it wanted too, because your military fired tank shells into their compound. America hasn't been free and it certainly hasn't been "by the people" for a long long time. If you truly believe in a free country with a government of the people, then may I suggest you release yourselves from the shackles of the history and look away from yourselves and take inspiration for how to not only ensure your country and philosophies are still relevant but so are your peoples views and way of life.