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[Fujoshi Otaku]

I think the literal definition is a nerd. But it can be used to describe people who are obsessed with anime and manga too.
Have you been to any anime conventions?

[Lady Pitbull]

no ... cause i never have a ride... but i love reading ... drawing... and watching anima... and manga.... i was in a manga club when i use to go to high school

[Rellik San]

to me anima is (usualy but not for all cases) written for teens and adults.... it is simular to a cartoon... or maybe ill go as far as to say anima is the maturing of the cartoon.... kinda like evolution..( sorry for bad spelling) almost all cartoons are made with the thought in mind that it is sopose to be simple and entertainimg... as long as it passes a dull mind and gets a laugh(unfortunatly im one of these dull minds who laugh at cartoons).... anima is still an imagination come to life.. just as cartoons are... but with the idea of a more developed mind... as we get older we yearn for challanges and anima stimulates your brain more than cartoons.

So then.... what about the following (not counting super hero/Intentionally for adult shows);

Invader Zim
Rockos Modern Life
Ren and Stimpy
Regular Show
Cow and Chicken
Jonny Bravo
Animaniacs
Samurai Jack
Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends

All are shows, that whilst gag based had very intelligent and very well put together scripts with jokes working on several levels for all edges, those shows are well remembered and beloved for a reason, where as now I look back at some of the cartoon drek I used to watch (uh.... Doug) and can't watch it, I can happily watch those shows and with a renewed vigour because I notice stuff that I didn't or didn't understand at least, as a child.

And this is before I even begin piling on the;
Daria
Stressed Eric
Angry Kid
The Tick
Dilbert

To say Anime offers a wealth of imagination because it's more then gag shows is also to dismiss the likes of
Transformers
Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors
Visionaries
Thundercats
Lone Star

The fact is neither is better, it's as simple as Anime is what we use to classify Japanese cartoons because they uphold different cultural stakes and values which to a typical western audience may not otherwise be so easy to explain. To believe Anime is more serious is also dismissing such lumaries as;
Lucky Star
FLCL
Excel Saga (one of my favourite series of all time)
Pythagoras Switch

And a whole host of others. Look guys, I get it, you like to think watching fan subs of some obscure show makes you more nerdy/cool (depending on your peers) and have even lulled yourself into a sense of "Well anime's just better" and that's wrong, for every good anime there are 20 schlock series and don't get me wrong I love my schlock anime (TANK POLICE!) BUT to say it's better or different because action shows are more prevalent is closing yourself of to a wealth of shows that are... not necessarily better, but far more relatable to you and your life, cultural identity and moral values and as such can be just as funny, shocking and even sad as the best anime out there.
I can certainly relate more to Rigby and Mordecai then I can to Tenchi Masaki.

[Lady Pitbull]

im not dissing on any cartoons... but im really thinking of the older original cartoons i guess.... think about it.... like tom and jerry as an example.... it one show never played off of another... it was individual episodes... same with most cartoons... unless you run into really cool cartoons like.... some of late night adult swim cartoons...and that doesnt even count for all of them .... but i do see your point as well

Another great cartoom: ed edd and eddy or how ever ya spell their namesXD

[Rellik San]

im not dissing on any cartoons... but im really thinking of the older original cartoons i guess.... think about it.... like tom and jerry as an example.... it one show never played off of another... it was individual episodes... same with most cartoons... unless you run into really cool cartoons like.... some of late night adult swim cartoons...and that doesnt even count for all of them .... but i do see your point as well

Another great cartoom: ed edd and eddy or how ever ya spell their namesXD

And I'm not saying you were, I'm just saying you can't make sweeping generalised statements about what one thing is.

As an aside, the earliest Anime was usually self contained, any given episode of Tetsuwan Atom is stand alone.

[Lady Pitbull]

true.. not all anima is a series.... kinda like the inocent.. and most if not all cartoons do have more than one episode... plus some manga/anima are like cartoons when it comes to having different plots each book.. they are simular.. neithor is perfec i agree.. but my personal views are that i unfortunatly love anima/manga more than normal cartoons

[Fujoshi Otaku]

no ... cause i never have a ride... but i love reading ... drawing... and watching anima... and manga.... i was in a manga club when i use to go to high school

Oh.
OMG. >..< So lucky. D: My school didn't have a manga club...Well...I wasn't into anime and manga at school so I don't know. D: You can draw, too?

And a whole host of others. Look guys, I get it, you like to think watching fan subs of some obscure show makes you more nerdy/cool (depending on your peers) and have even lulled yourself into a sense of "Well anime's just better" and that's wrong, for every good anime there are 20 schlock series and don't get me wrong I love my schlock anime (TANK POLICE!) BUT to say it's better or different because action shows are more prevalent is closing yourself of to a wealth of shows that are... not necessarily better, but far more relatable to you and your life, cultural identity and moral values and as such can be just as funny, shocking and even sad as the best anime out there.
I can certainly relate more to Rigby and Mordecai then I can to Tenchi Masaki.

No. I'm honestly not like that. I couldn't care less what is 'cool' or what other people think, or thinking: "ZOMG! It's another culture so I'll seem all cultural if I like it!" And I love some of those cartoons on that list, too. And others. Pretty much all the old cartoons I used to watch and still do. I even like Spongebob which doesn't even have the good script writing those cartoons do.
All I really wanted to get across was that I hate it when people around me refuse to watch anime because they think it is the same as cartoons, which they allowed themselves to grow out of. So they do not give it a chance, and think I am talking a bunch of nonsense all the time. They don't think that something animated can have deep meanings and amazingly put together plots.
Yes, anime has got me obsessed with Japanese culture, but not to prove anything to anyone else. I genuinely want to learn all I can about Japan/its history/culture/language. But that is completely separate from my love of anime. I love anime because a lot of the ones I have seen have excellent characters/plot/depth/etc. And I know some of them are like cartoons because I've watched a few of those too. I also love cartoons. I'm not saying one is better than the other because, like you pointed out ages ago, they're completely different things. I just personally prefer anime because they're less likely to just focus on being funny. Even the most well written and loved cartoons are mostly for laughs. Watching Cow and Chicken, and Johnny Bravo, and Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends (which I absolutely LOVE.), all I did was laugh. Some animes have almost brought me to tears, which is EXTREMELY hard to do. I love that there is something out there that is able to do that.

Also, I can not comment on mecha/superhero/etc. things because I haven't given that genre a chance. I know I should, because it's hypocritical to get mad at others for not giving anime a chance, when I wont give certain genres a chance. But I do know superhero cartoons aren't just for lulz.

-.-U That probably all sounds like an excuse. But honestly I am not trying to be special in any way. I just have something I really love.

[Azrael.]

And, of course, there are cartoons that most people will always love. Spongebob, Looney Tunes, Simpsons, Family Guy, etc. etc. etc. (I didn't mention South Park because it's already been mentioned. But that's an obvious one too.)

.... I don't like any of those cartoons. In actual fact I've never seen/watched a cartoon I've liked. On the other hand, I could bore or excite a great many people with the ridiculous amount of anime I've watched.


EDIT: I have made a very grave mistake, there is one: Avatar: The Legend of Aang and of course the new series, Avatar; The legend of Korra.

Why does one have to be better then the other?

They both fill very different niches, with the Japanese excelling at action cartoons and America/Canada making some of the greatest gag shows known to man.
It's like asking which is better Watchmen or American Pie, there really is no basis for comparison.

Unless you're going to ask specifically about various shows, you can not say one is exclusively better then the other, I enjoy Regular Show, Batman The Brave and the Bold and My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic (What? I'm a Brony, gotta problem with it?) as much as I do Bleach, Samurai Champloo and Bastard!!!

/Concur

(@ Bolded) HAHAHA, why does that not surprise me! .... On the other hand, why do I know so many Bronys?!

to me anima is (usualy but not for all cases) written for teens and adults.... it is simular to a cartoon... or maybe ill go as far as to say anima is the maturing of the cartoon.... kinda like evolution..( sorry for bad spelling) almost all cartoons are made with the thought in mind that it is sopose to be simple and entertainimg... as long as it passes a dull mind and gets a laugh(unfortunatly im one of these dull minds who laugh at cartoons).... anima is still an imagination come to life.. just as cartoons are... but with the idea of a more developed mind... as we get older we yearn for challanges and anima stimulates your brain more than cartoons bc it usualy has you thinking what will happen... how will it continue.. where as cartoons are just ment for the moment (as you have already pointed out... just with different words) but i am not just comparing the tv shows ... im also comparing the manga books vs cartoon comics...not super hero comics(bc in all reality... the super hero comics are very simular to anima).....

Whilst I agree with part of this. There's anime and manga out there that's specifically aimed at a younger audience, in particular shounen and shojo and gag mangas/animes. The point is it's just a genre it's aimed at all ages and the main difference is it's made in Japan. (And this is coming from someone biased towards anime and manga.)


..... I was obsessed with Japan and a lot of other cultures growing up; moving around does that to you. Anime and manga just got me more into Japan... GAWD! That sounds like such a hipster statement! > I LYK JAP4N B4 I LyKED ANIMEA!


.... Aaaaaaaaaand on that note.



Steve said it the best.

[Gangsta Fag]

Bugs Bunny > Anything else ever made

[Fujoshi Otaku]

^ D: Nu. Road Runner kicks butt! >.<

[Lady Pitbull]

Oh.
OMG. >..< So lucky. D: My school didn't have a manga club...Well...I wasn't into anime and manga at school so I don't know. D: You can draw, too?



No. I'm honestly not like that. I couldn't care less what is 'cool' or what other people think, or thinking: "ZOMG! It's another culture so I'll seem all cultural if I like it!" And I love some of those cartoons on that list, too. And others. Pretty much all the old cartoons I used to watch and still do. I even like Spongebob which doesn't even have the good script writing those cartoons do.
All I really wanted to get across was that I hate it when people around me refuse to watch anime because they think it is the same as cartoons, which they allowed themselves to grow out of. So they do not give it a chance, and think I am talking a bunch of nonsense all the time. They don't think that something animated can have deep meanings and amazingly put together plots.
Yes, anime has got me obsessed with Japanese culture, but not to prove anything to anyone else. I genuinely want to learn all I can about Japan/its history/culture/language. But that is completely separate from my love of anime. I love anime because a lot of the ones I have seen have excellent characters/plot/depth/etc. And I know some of them are like cartoons because I've watched a few of those too. I also love cartoons. I'm not saying one is better than the other because, like you pointed out ages ago, they're completely different things. I just personally prefer anime because they're less likely to just focus on being funny. Even the most well written and loved cartoons are mostly for laughs. Watching Cow and Chicken, and Johnny Bravo, and Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends (which I absolutely LOVE.), all I did was laugh. Some animes have almost brought me to tears, which is EXTREMELY hard to do. I love that there is something out there that is able to do that.

Also, I can not comment on mecha/superhero/etc. things because I haven't given that genre a chance. I know I should, because it's hypocritical to get mad at others for not giving anime a chance, when I wont give certain genres a chance. But I do know superhero cartoons aren't just for lulz.

-.-U That probably all sounds like an excuse. But honestly I am not trying to be special in any way. I just have something I really love.

 

Yes , I do draw manga. I have been working on my own book right now. It may be American, but i want to submit it to tokyopop either way.

[Fujoshi Otaku]

 

Yes , I do draw manga. I have been working on my own book right now. It may be American, but i want to submit it to tokyopop either way.

 

>..< That is so cool. D: There is one of my books that I would love to make into a manga instead, but I can't draw.

O.O You can actually submit it to tokyopop?

[Lady Pitbull]

 

>..< That is so cool. D: There is one of my books that I would love to make into a manga instead, but I can't draw.

O.O You can actually submit it to tokyopop?

I am not compleatly sure. I do know that they take fan art and letters ... so i was thinking i would make them a sample and send it to the author with a letter asking if she could show it to the publishers. I don't know for sure but l am going to ask . It is worth a shot. My art is good and a bit different so maybe they will like it.

[Fujoshi Otaku]

I am not compleatly sure. I do know that they take fan art and letters ... so i was thinking i would make them a sample and send it to the author with a letter asking if she could show it to the publishers. I don't know for sure but l am going to ask . It is worth a shot. My art is good and a bit different so maybe they will like it.

 

Awesome. I hope you're able to get it published by them.

[Lady Pitbull]

So do I.

[Rellik San]

 

Yes , I do draw manga. I have been working on my own book right now. It may be American, but i want to submit it to tokyopop either way.

No you don't, given Tokyopop have a nasty habit of screwing OEL Manga creators, instead look too either Viz or Darkhorse publishing.

[Lady Pitbull]

OK. Thanks for the tip, I will try that .

[Miclarina]

definitely anime