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A Rough Idea.
#1
Posted 15 August 2012 - 06:23 AM
Not saying this is the only issue that needs to be ironed out, but it's one that i'm increasingly noticing. The newbies I've spoken too who are like this are saying there's nothing on the forum they want to talk about on the forums and so I've got an idea or two to encourage these little guys to poke out of their cave.
The main one for me, whilst it is probably the most extreme, is that of disabling the ability to send PMs and Comments to other normal members, until a post threshold has been passed - Much in the same way that you can't change your title until 500 posts. Please note this is only to normal members, they would still be able to comment and PM to mods, so that if they need to ask questions etc this wouldn't be restricted. This would just stop new members being sucked into this cliques that consist of 10 posts, 10000 profile views and 1000 friends and forcing them to post in the forums and get to know everyone the way we all did! Posting in the forum is about momentum, the more you post, the more you get to know everyone, the easier it becomes to post.
Of course this option would take the effort of the active regular members and the Mods alike, due to the fact that we'd have to keep these new feisty newblets entertained and not being estranged from our low post count friends.
Other methods could just be more incentives to get people posting, different topics, competitions and just generally carrying on with what we have been doing, but more concentrated on the newbs coming through.
It's not the perfect idea and it's up for being tweaked and changed, It just seems to be the most obvious and easiest to implement method of getting these guys posting. I mean I've tried to speak to newbies who are like this and they get so sucked up in their little friend circles that they just have superiority complexes and are pretty rude. - I fear this is the fallout of the shoutout box.
#2
Posted 15 August 2012 - 10:02 AM
#3
Posted 15 August 2012 - 10:40 AM
It did strike me as odd that I couldn't make my own topic until I had so many posts but I could PM with people, I figured if your going to prevent me to start new topics then wouldn't it make sense to do the same with PMing for the same reasons. On that note though, this place isn't that dead if you ask me. It has quite a few posts going through it. Perhaps it's not as lively as before, but it still pumps out a lot compared many forums. I personally don't post much neither because a lot of the topics don't strike me as interesting, but when I see one that is interesting to me, I'll comment or post.
The forum is massively inactive compared to say, 2 years ago, by a long stretch. Well the impetus is on you to post topics that you DO find interesting. It shouldn't be out job to entertain you, contribute as well. You seem like a literate fellow and that gives you a head start on 80% (i'm being generous.) of the others here. The new topics barrier is to stop spammers/trolls coming on to the forum, creating loads of accounts and just posting loads of porn, hence why a mod has to approve your first few posts. - It's a delicate balance.
#4
Posted 15 August 2012 - 11:34 AM
#5
Posted 15 August 2012 - 11:47 AM
#6
Posted 15 August 2012 - 12:05 PM
But if you stop the Newbies from PMing each other and the mods then the site is going to die.... Just think about it use your brains for gods sakes.
PMing is the effective way that newbs can talk to older members to get help and no i dont mean just mods obviously.
Effectively taking away the PM privileges we have now would more then probably kill the site.
#7
Posted 15 August 2012 - 12:11 PM
You face an equal problem in that if the forum carries on being so inactive then the regular members who do post there will eventually become bored and just leave and the forum would become stagnant. #
#8
Posted 15 August 2012 - 12:48 PM
The main problem that i see is that if you take away PM rights then you take away their reason to still be here.
They use PMing as an effective way of getting help building friendships, ect.
And taking that away from them would be a death wish per say for this site.
Just think about it.
#9
Posted 15 August 2012 - 12:59 PM
There is a few problems I could pick at but im not going to.
The main problem that i see is that if you take away PM rights then you take away their reason to still be here.
They use PMing as an effective way of getting help building friendships, ect.
And taking that away from them would be a death wish per say for this site.
Just think about it.
Shockingly, this site survived perfectly well before you and i'm sure it'll cope after.
I'm going to be blunt on this, this is a forum. If that's your reason for being here, then post. If that isn't your reason, leave. I don't understand how people just don't get the point being made here.
#10
Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:06 PM
Look around the bloody forums!
People Post Make New topics their doing what they have always done before you came back and made a big deal about how the forum is effectively Dead.
Shut up and Open your eyes for once!
For gods sakes.
PMing is how we ask for help and get to know one another
Take that away people dont get help and make a mess of things.
The forum will pick up it needs to be given time.
Make new topics if your really that worried about it.
Make them about things people are interested in.
#11
Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:11 PM
#12
Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:16 PM
I agree with steve
#13
Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:36 PM
Patch and kane, can you stop with the petty arguments it's a suggestion not a personal spat between the two of you.
Steve, you raise a good point. I think the only real solution might be to try to work on newbie integration. I wish there was a better way to encourage the newbies to post in the first place, though, many of them NEVER post. We do have a ridiculous amount of registered members.
I'm not arguing, she's just a 13 year old prima donna.
#14
Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:38 PM
I think logically unlike allot of people.
And if that makes me a prima dona then so be it.
#15
Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:41 PM
Thank you.
I think logically unlike allot of people.
And if that makes me a prima dona then so be it.
I'm just going to stop replying, Jess you know my thoughts on it. Take from it what you will.
#16
Posted 15 August 2012 - 06:48 PM
And they can still talk to mods even if you add a subforum in this section for newbie problems etc.
But either way if you look at it, Patch has a point and so does Kane, but each has their repercussion.
#17
Posted 15 August 2012 - 06:50 PM
#18
Posted 15 August 2012 - 07:14 PM
I think the reason why it's so low is because we're still, in all appearances, an emo site. And when kids join up, they're lost as to how to fit in, seeing as the member base is so obviously non emo. I think that's a main issue and factor as to why the site is so low in activity, imo.
The cheek on you coming up with this 'integrate the newbs, revive the site' malarkey and responding as such when a member offers their opinion (even though it was slightly laced with typical teen attitude) differing to yours, you treat them less than kind. They only pointed a fault with your new system idea, which is no reason to demean them.Shockingly, this site survived perfectly well before you and i'm sure it'll cope after.
I'm going to be blunt on this, this is a forum. If that's your reason for being here, then post. If that isn't your reason, leave. I don't understand how people just don't get the point being made here.
This site also survived perfectly well before you came along, and will do the same without.
edit: excuse the shit spelling, it's four am and i cba with typing coherently. Also, Shattered Hopes, I love your sig.
#19
Posted 26 August 2012 - 03:24 PM
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